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Message Board / Forum. Goldfish Breeding. Goldfish Of The Month April:

Posted by: Ranchugirl Apr 1 2004, 10:04 PM
Goldfish of the month April: The Shubunkin!
The shubunkin has a completely different body shape than last months goldfish, the oranda, and a different origin.
The shubunkin was first introduced in Japan, and the originally variety is, despite its simple form and widespread popularity, a rather modern type, which was first bred in 1900 by Mr. Akiyama.

The Shubunkin is only being allowed in one color pattern - calico, which contains black, white, red, orange, and brown, on a silvery-blue, almost lavendar colored back ground, and the black should continue into the finnage.
The distinctive feature of the Shubunkin is its possession of transparent scales and an underlying opalescent sheen from which character it is termend "nacreous". Full development of the best Shubunkin coloration depends on the absence of the genes of the metallic common goldfish. The highly prized blue coloration depends on the actual presence of melanin in the sub-epidermal layers.

Body features
The Shubunkin is somewhat similar to a Comet, without having the same length of caudal fin, of course. Its a single tailed fin, reaching a length of 12 inch is not unheard of. His body should have a slender appearance, with the body depth appr. 3/8 the length of the body. The dorsal fin should be from 3/8 to greater than the depth of the body. The pectoral and pelvic fins are paired, the anal fin is single as well.

As for the tail configuration, there are 3 different types of Shubunkin around today. The Japanese/ American Shubunkin has a deeply forked caudal fin, with long narrow lobes ending in a point; it should be as long or longer than the length of the body. He is probably the basic Shubunkin and can be found in Japanese paintings of 80 years ago.

(young American Shubunkin)

The London Shubunkin should have a short caudal fin, with well rounded lobes with moderate forking, the length of the caudal fin should be appr. 1/4 of the body length. The peak of the development of the London Shubunkin is mostly the work of the British breeder, Mrs. Pamela Whittington, who produced some of the most striking species of Shubunkins.

(Courtesy of http://www.bristol-aquarists.org.uk/)

The Bristol Shubunkin, my personal favorite, has a very dominant, and distinctive, feature not found in the other two Shubunkin kinds - his longer finnage, and its especially rounded form of the caudal fin, and particularly in the two lobes. There has been a tendency to select excessively for length and size of fins, which somewhat remind me of the shape of a heart, fallen sideways. Those huge, wide lobes tend to collapse as the fish gets bigger and older. The first Bristol Shubunkin was bred in Britain by the Bristol Aquarists Society (BAS) in 1934.

(Courtesy of Bristol Aquarists Society)

Environmental needs
The Shubunkin is known to be one of the hardier varieties, and therefore is a very popular fish kept in ponds, especially since he does not mind sharing his home with koi. Due to the size he can grow into as an adult fish, he has a minimum need on gallonage, which should not be under 30-40gl per fish in adult hood, and not being less than 15 gl as a juvenile. It is not recommended to keep him together with slower swimming goldfish varieties like bubble eyes or telescopes, since he is so much faster and will always win in the race for the food, which is a big disadvantage for the slower species.

Posted by: toothless Apr 1 2004, 08:31 PM
andrea, this is making me want to go get one, and ive got a little spare room in my 50 gallon, the only problem is that i havent seen any around here in a while. maybe soon...............

Posted by: gonzofan432 Apr 1 2004, 09:54 PM
Good tidbits of info Andrea. I am so happy to see the shuby get fish of the month.

Posted by: Tanya_woz_ere Apr 2 2004, 10:35 PM
Great info. Im hopefully getting a pond soon. and a shubunkin is the first fish im getting for it. I saw some beautiful ones the other week at a local garden center.

Posted by: JessicaandMarshall Apr 3 2004, 11:10 PM
I have two shubunkins. After seeing these pictures, I realize that my two both have really shoddy tails LOL.


Posted by: Black oranda Apr 5 2004, 01:13 PM
That is so mutch great info adrea.
My subunskin Tashra is a Bristol Shubunkin yuppy lol

Posted by: Stubbsy Apr 5 2004, 02:03 PM
Great post. There was everything I wanted to know about Shubunkins there and even stuff I didn't know I wanted to know. If you get what I mean.

Posted by: Ranchugirl Apr 6 2004, 09:26 PM
So, any other shubunkin pictures?? Come on now, I know they are out there.

Posted by: ed586 Apr 14 2004, 06:25 PM
Wow, that was cool info. I cannot imagine have 30-40 gallons to spare, though. Looks like a pond project in my future.

Posted by: Devs Apr 14 2004, 06:31 PM
Very informative. Great learning experience for me. Good Job Andrea. I'm with you,Loved that Bristol.

Posted by: emmahj Apr 19 2004, 04:13 PM
Yup, the Bristol is definitely my favourite too. It's easy to find London and Bristol shubies in the UK, but the American / Japanese one is very rare here.

Oh, I wish I had a pond so I could keep some of these lovely fish. *groans with longing* <

Posted by: Orandaman Apr 21 2004, 12:55 PM
Wow. That is truly a beautiful specimen.

Posted by: monty Apr 28 2004, 12:40 PM
The Shubinkin looks great, especially the Bristol variety. I saw them on the actual website they sponsor, and thought they looked very nice. I'd like to be able to find one out ehre in Hawaii, still looking though.

Posted by: Tanya_woz_ere Apr 28 2004, 02:02 PM
where does the name of the "bristol shub" originate from? I mean the "bristol" bit?

Posted by: blinky000 May 1 2004, 07:28 PM
maybe they were bred in bristol? i have a japanese shub called copper who has lasted 8 years of which i am very proud. he was a daddy but all his babies died but ive decided he can be the foster father of the one remaining baby.

Posted by: Ranchugirl May 2 2004, 02:43 PM
Yeah, thats actually where they originally came from - Bristol in England...Amy, got a picture of Copper? He must be a very special fish.

Posted by: monty May 6 2004, 04:58 PM
Yes, that is where they are from and they are just awesome looking fish (I think). Here is a link to the site, which has pictures of this variety along with many others. http://www.bristol-aquarists.org.uk/

Hope that helps.

Posted by: Tanya_woz_ere May 7 2004, 09:45 PM
QUOTE (Ranchugirl @ May 2 2004, 09:43 PM)
Yeah, thats actually where they originally came from - Bristol in England...Amy, got a picture of Copper? He must be a very special fish.

I no where bristol is. When i went on holiday down to the coast we had to drive through Bristol&. very cool ...

Posted by: spoon May 12 2004, 09:32 PM
wow, I love shubys they are my fav gf. love to see them

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