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Live Plants -vs- Plastic

Message Board / Forum. Goldfish Plants. Live Plants -vs- Plastic.


Posted by: monty May 3 2004, 05:54 PM
Just wondering if live plantys help? If so how? I am new to this, with a new tank that is close to being fully cycled. Will live plants help to complete the cycle faster? Will it be okay to add them, or should I have started the tank with live ones in it? What plants are the best? We have some fake pastic things in there that my wife kinda liked, but I am open to suggestions&. THANKS.

Posted by: koko May 3 2004, 07:05 PM
Live plants provide extra O2 to the tank and look more natural, but you have to maintain them to keep them growing, also they provide food for the goldfish if the like the plants.

Live plants will use up the nitrates in the tank that the goldfish produce and will help keep the levels of waste down, this doesn't mean you don't need to do water changes though.

Fake plants are allot easier to take care of, unless you have allot of algae in the tank, in that case the fake plants will get covered in algae fast.


The interesting thing about plants is trying to find ones that goldfish wont eat. some goldfish will eat any plant you place in there others don't bother plants.

You can add plants in an already existing tank, most of my tanks I have substrate to them, but the lower easier to take care of plants listed on this site don't really need a special kind of substrate.

Posted by: monty May 6 2004, 05:00 PM
Hmmmm...sounds like it's time to go shopping for a book, or look around a little and scope out the plant types and what you need to get them going and keep them healthy.

Posted by: Devs May 6 2004, 09:19 PM
Well, one good thing is that thru the years, fake plants have gotten better and better looking so that they are more natural than ever. I have always bought an occasional -live- plant here and there,but they never seemed to make it. I finally got a computer in the last 6 months ,and it's amazing what I have missed out on. Anyway-long story short,I have slowly turned most or all of each of my bigger tanks into planted tanks and I love them. I'm new at that part,so I have no fancy substrates,or nothing besides the standard lighting that comes with the tanks. I've done homework though,and started picking the correct plants,and hey ,they are actually staying alive for me. That is a good feeling,let me tell you. And I allready know that somewhere in the future,I will be tempted to change the substrate lighting, and try those harder plants. I have red plants that are actually doing okay for me.Any one thats read up on plants knows that those types are usually harder and more light demanding-It's all about homework.

Posted by: fi5hkiller May 6 2004, 11:50 PM
live plant produce oxygen, a source of food as snack, reduce nitrAte..

fake plant doesnt rot, and fishes may choke on them (when they manage to tear and swallow a leaf of the fake plant) and they dun mess up the water for my fish left soooo much loose leaves around everyday and it choke up my filters..

fake plant can be washed, but live plant are more sensitive when washing lest you kill the plant if HOT water is used or strong solution is used.. and lastly, the look of fake plant last, while live plants may grow out of shape or over grown that makes it look undesirable..

but watever it is, I chose live plants for its benefit for food n oxygen n reduce nitrAte.. fake plant can pose as a danger as fish may choke on it and might get scratch if the fake stem or branches are too hard n sharp...

Posted by: spoon May 10 2004, 07:04 PM
go with live plants, my fish love the snack off the leaves, the reduction of the chemicals is a plus too.

Posted by: monty May 11 2004, 02:54 PM
Okay, well, maybe the next question is - WHAT PLANTS shoudl I start out with??

Posted by: Ceridwen May 11 2004, 06:16 PM
With stock lighting, and goldfish...

Anubias (almost any variety)
Java moss and java fern (best attached to driftwood or similar)
Banana plant
Crypts (lots of varieties, expect it to look terrible for a few weeks after you get it, they don't like change)
Onion Plant
Anacharis

You may have luck with things like Madagascar Lace, Compact or Amazon swordplants, Wisteria, Water Sprite, etc. These are a bit more light demanding and look a bit tastier to some goldfish though.

Stay away from: Mondo Grass, Brazilian Sword, Scarlet Hygro, and Purple Waffle. These are non aquatic plants very frequently sold by pet stores as aquatic (there are a few others). If you see a plant you think just doesn't look like it';s really aquatic, check online before you buy it.

Posted by: Devs May 12 2004, 03:23 PM
I myself love the anubias,and the crypts. They always seem to grow very well for me,and look great.

Posted by: Marche May 12 2004, 01:48 PM
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Live plants provide extra O2 to the tank and look more natural, but you have to maintain them to keep them growing, also they provide food for the goldfish if the like the plants.


NOT TRUE i found a package at the pet-center of aquaplants, just throw them in they float at the surface and grow by themselves after they grow they move to the bottom and the fish might eat them if they are hungry. they die, float to the surface, and start all over. i bought a package of 5 and they lasted almost 3 years and for only 3.50 a package i always buy them.

Posted by: Fantail May 19 2004, 05:46 PM
I have bamboo in my tank and the fish don't eat it, they refuge inside the roots, and the plants grow faster from the goldfish.

Posted by: sixlittlefish May 28 2004, 10:42 PM
my two goldfish are definitely enjoying the watersprite, I really want to add more love plants, can't believe how much clearer the water is...

Posted by: mookie May 28 2004, 10:58 PM
I like the silk plants rather than the plastic ones. The silk are easier to clean off the algea, you can scrub them. The plastics fall apart during cleaning. As far as real plants, too much money. I'd rather spend the money on fish or something really needed for the tank, like filter pads, meds, etc.

Posted by: ed586 May 28 2004, 11:13 PM
I didn't see it mentioned, plastic plants can sometimes cause tiny sores on a GF's mouth which can lead to columnaris. That's another reason to use silk or real.

Anachris are really easy to keep alive. GF's generally don't eat them and they grow like crazy. I guess I would only recommend them for larger tanks, however.

Posted by: LaurieP May 28 2004, 12:18 PM
The way you guys talk about your live plants makes me want some. I'm so scared to do it though. I really don't have money to waste if they keep dying or get eaten. Also I like my tank to look a certain way, and with live plants I'm not sure it would. Hhhmmmm maybe I'll think about it.......
Laurie

Posted by: ed586 May 28 2004, 12:20 PM
I got an achachris bunch of 6 for 1.99 at Petsmart. ...tempting, isn't it....

Posted by: LaurieP May 28 2004, 12:35 PM
Ooohhhh yeah, What do they look like?

Laurie

Posted by: ed586 May 28 2004, 12:45 PM
Hard to describe.

Posted by: Lachfa May 28 2004, 12:51 PM
My fish eat every live plant I have ever put in the tank - I fill and it's gone in a week. The plants aren't expensive around here, but I gave up and went to plastic - those aren't cheap.

Posted by: Black oranda May 28 2004, 01:30 PM
I must say live plants,they look really nice in Aquariums
and looks REAL. Yes they could get expensive but i do fidn it is worth the money,if your fish/snails won't eat them.

Posted by: LaurieP May 28 2004, 04:21 PM
Hhhhmmmm.... still thinking. I liked that anacharis though. To tell you the truth I also like the amazon sword too.
Thanks for the pics.


Laurie

Posted by: GoldfishGoddess May 28 2004, 05:28 PM
Live plants can make your aquarium more interesting, they also provide shelter, food, and oxygen.

Goldfish moslty find live plants a great snack! They will be eaten by your goldfish, and dead or uneaten food will end up at the bottom causing dirty water, or high Ph. Also live plants might create more alerge then you already have if any. Many Plastic plants or silk plants look realistic and can be easily washed in warm water when a bit dirty.

Some safe live plants are;

THE JAVA FERN
WATER SPRITE
APONOGETON UNDULATUS
THE AMAZON SWORDPLANT
VALLISNERIA SPIRALIS
ANACHARIS DENSA
MYRIOPHYLLUM HIPPUROIDES
HYGROPHILA POLYSPERMA
MYRIOPHYLUM AQUATICUM
CRYPTOCORYNE BECKETTI
LUDWIGA
BANANA PLANT
ANACHARIS
CABOMBA
MYRIOPHYLLUM




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